Four Presidents And A General Discuss Affairs Of State

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DATELINE: The White House
27 September 2018
Transcript: POTUS Debriefs Three Presidents And A General

Present: POTUS Trump, POTUS Washington, POTUS Lincoln, POTUS Roosevelt, General of the Army MacArthur, SecDHS Nielsen, CoS Kelly

POTUS Trump: Gentlemen, thank you for agreeing to meet here in the home our citizens provide for their President.

ALL: Thank you for inviting us.

POTUS Trump: General MacArthur, you have been here nearly as much as one who has lived here.

GA MacArthur: Indeed so, Sir.  On and off nearly from the time I graduated at the Academy.  President Roosevelt’s fifth cousin, Franklin, invited me here often, so often in fact that I once asked him why he wanted me at functions that had nothing to do with my role then as Chief of Staff of the Army.  He replied, “I believe you represent the conscience of America, and I want to hear what you have to say on matters which arrest our attention and energy.”

POTUS Washington: I am glad you were available for the purpose, General.  Americans are good people, rambunctious, but when told the truth, they will make wise choices reliably.  For that to happen, their leaders, who get insulated in the natural course of events, and especially Americans’ Presidents, must have near to their hearts, eyes and ears, allegiance to the conscience of American citizens.

POTUS Roosevelt: And not to the whims of non-citizens nor yet to the ravings of nominal citizens who denounce their Mother Country.

POTUS Lincoln: I dealt with that.  Not only denounce, shoot at.  We had to treat most vigorously of that danger.  It was an insurrection.  General, your father was of great help in that regard.

GA MacArthur: Thank you, Mr. President.  And I see that insurrection occurring today, in different uniforms but to the same end: break the back of the Union, destroy the Mother County.  And not just verbal offensives.  Legal and physical attacks as well, centrally and de-centrally organized, using proven propaganda techniques, and with access to both private and public finance.

POTUS Trump: One reason I invited you all here.  John, do you have that report?

CoS Kelly: Right here. Sir.

POTUS Trump: Gentlemen, a few months ago I sent a team of my eyes and ears into the country to watch and listen and report back.  They confirmed what John observed publicly while he was SecDHS: if Americans knew their actual situation with respect to safety, reliability, and ease, they would fear to leave their homes.  Read.  [Distributes five-pages of charts and bullet-points.]

POTUS Lincoln: Who is doing this?

POTUS Roosevelt: Who indeed.  Look at the chart contrasting who Americans think is threatening them and who actually is.

POTUS Washington: We were obliged to address people inside and outside the Army subverting the Army and the strong will of most to form a nation around Congress’ and the Army’s success in gaining independence.  I and others holding responsibility for the direction of affairs felt that our most consequential strength — or as you would say today, our best asset — was our moral courage and after that the general uprightness of our fellow citizens.  Interestingly, and gratifyingly I should say, the mission statement of the fortification-system-now-military-academy most central to our battlefield success includes the promise to develop leaders of character.

POTUS Lincoln: Leaders of character develop only in the presence of God, and that means in the fear of Him.  Fearing God is the only value that does not shake when attacked.  All the rest are constructs.  That one is permanent.

POTUS Roosevelt: In many speeches POTUS Washington made that point.

GA MacArthur: Indeed he did.

POTUS Trump: I thought we would agree on that.  <smiling>

POTUS Washington: That said, we were severe on subverters, seditionists.  We assumed that words are precursors of deeds and as such accurately predict coming events, although not necessarily their location or intensity.  The Constitution does not protect denunciation of the Mother Country.  That would be as unthinkable as denouncing one’s natural mother or one’s mother religion or language.  But we had people who denounced their mother country and we treated them harshly through civil or military punitive authority, per the context of the offense, if they offered to abridge or degrade it.

Patriotism starts with love for the Mother Country.  Where there is no love for Her, there is no Patriotism . . . and therefore no enduring strength, but that is another subject.  My point here is, denunciation of the Mother Country is a portal for a host of evils to leap through to commence cultivating confusion and chaos.  Or, changing the metaphor: denunciation itself is the bud to nip.  Criticism is one thing, protected.  So is petition to redress grievances.  But denunciaiton, is not, not ever.

POTUS Lincoln: I could not agree more.  I tried to govern in those terms as well.

GA MacArthur: I may be wrong, but I seem to recall that POTUS Wilson was the first president to countenance denunciation of our Mother Country.  In fact, he did it himself, denouncing the very Constitution and its posture of negative rather than positive stipulations.

CoS Kelly: That posture, incidentally, is the most mature of all possible philosophical inquiries and their sustaining epistemologies.  We can never say, with accuracy, what something really is, but we can say, with accuracy, what it is not.

POTUS Roosevelt: If POTUS Wilson was not the first, he certainly did do that.  So have Democratic Party presidents since then, excepting POTUS Kennedy.  Many Republican Party presidents have done as well, including POTUS Reagan and of course both Bushes.  It is a scandal and worse.  POTUS Reagan once spoke without condemnation of some by choice announcing as world citizens rather than citizens of the United States.

POTUS Trump: Well, perhaps I should take it more seriously.

POTUS Lincoln: Border security is meant to protect the privilege of citizenship.  It is a means to an end — citizenship — not an end in itself.

POTUS Washington: Border security also defines the geography inside and outside the nation’s zone of sovereignty.  But it is true, sovereignty also is a means, not an end.  Sovereignty is meant to protect the privileges of citizens as citizens of the Mother Country.  Those privileges are, as Martha put it, to be . . . steady as a clock, busy as a bee, and cheerful as a cricket . . . .  For, no other goal so animates the mind and soul of men to greatness, to prosperity, as that one does.

CoS Kelly: The Vedas say the purpose of life is to laugh, to dance, and to sing.

POTUS Trump: He’s a warrior-scholar, folks, a great one.

[Approving cheerfulness.]

POTUS Lincoln: I suggest preparation of a plenary threat matrix to be shared with the public.  If it is so terrifying people will remain home-bound, that will not last for long.  But it will set the tone of discussion.  And since it will be truthful, it will make its own way into wise or wise-enough counter-battery fire.

POTUS Trump: John . . . .

CoS Kelly: Yes, Sir.

POTUS Lincoln: It needs to include details from more than the obvious Departments, namely, DOD, DOJ, DHS, CIA, DOE, Treasury, State.  DOEd should top the list, actually, because the great majority of domestic subversion issues from their interlocutors in academe.  Next after them for priority regarding input, as you call it, on domestic subversion would be DOL.  Unions, which is to say organized crime, pour billions into activities which seduce citizens to vote for politicians who, for a little boodle, pour millions into Unions.  In my day, we called class-scale looters of the public weal combinations.

GA MacArthur: If I may, gentlemen, I suggest the threat matrix comprise two main sections that reflect our Oath of Office: foreign threats and domestic threats.  With honesty employed, elements or combinations (in POTUS Lincoln’s usage) of these sections can be enumerated without difficulty.  Difficulty emerges from the fact that several combinations are both foreign and domestic.  This creates, as its perpetrators intend, domestic VUCA.

POTUS Trump: The VUCA can be dispelled by precision of identification and by my elaborating the depth of experience citizens already have with individuals and groups who threaten their freedom.  This stuff is not a secret now.  I was elected to stop it.  It can be stopped.  We can do it.

POTUS Roosevelt: In the cross-over mentioned by General MacArthur, the foreign-domestic threat, I see two leading actors: Socialists and Jihadists.  Foreignly, I see no reason they should concern us unless they threaten the freedom of our citizens’ communications in a country or region.  Domestically, I see no reason they should not be imprisoned or deported or, if they have gone kinetic, executed.

POTUS Trump: A man his wife calls a mystical philosopher was here recently and his thoughts suggested a general alliance, grounded in common interests, of India, USA, and Russia for general management of inter-nation affairs.  If that possibility is a genuine opportunity for us, and I think it is, would that not elicit our concern foreignly regarding Socialists and Jihadists at least as far as those two nations are concerned?  Their concerns regarding Socialists and Jihadists — and they have plenty and solid ones — would be ours as well.

POTUS Washington: Yes, they would, especially if the alliance is formalized in some manner.  I think such an alliance could be conceived to function as a globe-scale Monroe Doctrine for us.  We said earlier to Europe, “Do not try to set up shop in the Western Hemisphere.  We will keep you from doing that.”  An alliance between India, USA, and Russia says to Socialists and Jihadists, “Do not try to set up shop anywhere on the planet save in your home country.  We will keep you from doing that.  And we may even throw over your shop in your home country, because in truth, you have no country, you only enslave a country, which is not the same as having a country.  You Socialists are persons without a country, neither men nor women.  You are slavers.  That is all you are.”

Of course, Jihadists already have no home country, not for their lack of trying.  In Iran conditionally, yes, but not for long.  So an alliance of India, USA, and Russia is already successful in that regard.

A globe-scale Monroe Doctrine at this time, therefore, contemplates warning orders addressing one country, one country only please, Mr. President: China.  Other countries enslaved by Socialists, such as Venezuela, Iran, Bolivia, and Sweden, are in train of privatizing.  By definition, Socialists cannot have a country because they do not believe in countries.  They believe in themselves, no more than that.

GA MacArthur: Mr. President, is there today a way — not counting sixty, even seventy years ago when there was one — to remove China’s appetite for global trade-route hegemony this side of land war on her territory?

POTUS Roosevelt: Over and through the roof, I should think.

CoS Kelly: Bombers, cyber, and satellites?

POTUS Lincoln: I think he means Tibet.

POTUS Trump: Tibet?

POTUS Washington: Yes, Tibet.

CoS Kelly: Tibet.

GA MacArthur: Tibet?!?  Gentlemen . . . .

CoS Kelly: China’s appetite for global trade-route hegemony is or should be the top item on DHS’s matrixes of domestic and foreign threats to USA sovereignty.  Saudi-and Iranian-inspired activities in that regard have topped the matrix of domestic threats but those are in decline and perhaps even annihilation.  Salafist Jihad has switched from Saudi to Qarati and Turkish finance, with downward pressure now on all three.  Shiite Jihad has not switched much from Iranian finance.  Turkey, operating now as the Moslem Brotherhood’s vector of Salafist Jihad, has hegemonic ambitions far exceeding her geo-strategic assets.

POTUS Trump: John, ask Nielsen to telcon in here.

POTUS Roosevelt: I have descended desolate rivers but not so much ascended them, on water that is.  Roads are best for ascending a river’s course.  Roads in sparsely-populated geographies tend to follow rivers, especially through mountains, which is the geography under examination.

POTUS Lincoln: China tried to descend from Tibet onto India but her communications snapped behind her front.  Logistics would be far easier going south to north than it was for China going north to south.  Still, once the north is gained, logistical problems gain the obtuse, and not only in distances.

GA MacArthur: My point regarding land war in Asia.  Although, with a logistical base in India rather than in Central Asia, or dispersed from hell to breakfast on islands of the Western Pacific, I would revisit calculations undergirding that point.

POTUS Washington: A roof that is gained does not necessarily have to be penetrated immediately.  If fire is under it, the roof is too dangerous to fix upon.  But with no fire under it, a roof is a rallying point to concentrate force for jumping through it and then out onto the street — or directly from it into the street — to take the next roof.  The Continental Army’s essentially winter bivouac at Valley Forge, PA, was just such a roofing maneuver with just such a goal in mind.

SecDHS Nielsen: Hello, Mr. President.

POTUS Trump: Hello, Kristjen.  POTUS Washington, POTUS Lincoln, POTUS Teddy Roosevelt, GA MacArthur, and CoS Kelly are here.  We are throwing a coup d’oeil on world affairs and specifically threats to the national sovereignty of Americans.  POTUS Lincoln and GA MacArthur recommend publication of your matrixes which show those threats, both domestic and foreign.  Your thoughts?

SecDHS Nielsen: Oh my.  Sir, that is a big one.  Give me a second.  I . . . .  It would occasion political showboating, large in quantity, but you and your interlocutors know that.

Strategic value of doing that?  Domestically, Americans appreciate being told the truth.  They would be grateful to hear it, no matter how terrifying, and their consent to their government is the life-blood as our nation.  Foreigners and malicious domestic personalities living here would look for exits and those living abroad, in their own countries, would be chastened.

Tactical value of doing that?  Domestically, it would set the cat among the pigeons and so conduce, among other things, to re-formation of civil defense battalions, this time, if done right, attached to local law enforcement agencies.  Publishing the matrixes would cause foreigners and malicious domestic personalities to check and recheck their seals, thus improving our visibility of their networks.  Anytime you work your network you expose it.  Their realizing that alone is a useful tool for preventing attack.

CoS Kelly: Kristjen, what say you to IC types who assert publishing the matrixes would compromise sources and methods, fatalities sure to ensue?

SecDHS Nielsen: Head them off at the pass, Sir.  Remind them that they use that dodge to sequester from scrutiny their and their friends’ nefarious activities.  Remind them that they are not a government, that they belong to a government which belongs to the generality of citizens it is allowed to serve.

POTUS Trump: OK, so no preempting reason not to publish the two threat matrixes, one domestic, one foreign.  General MacArthur, happy?

GA MacArthur: Yes, Mr. President.

POTUS Trump: Kirstjen and John?

SecDHS Nielsen and CoS Kelly: Roger, Sir.

POTUS Roosevelt: Tibet?

SecDHS Nielsen: Before I got here?

POTUS Washington: Yes, we were examining the fundamentals of undoing China’s appetite for trade-route hegemony.

SecDHS Nielsen: OK.  I should think a joint diplomatic, financial, and military pincer movement would suffice, especially if springing from three directions.

POTUS Lincoln: Tibet, from the south, from India, was in our discussion as one of those directions.

GA MacArthur: Russia could be a second direction, from the north.

POTUS Roosevelt: USA, from the east, could be a third direction.

China is pushing into Siberia to frustrate Russian power on her northern border.  She pushes west through her Moslem populations to make herself essential to MENA and Europe.

GA MacArthur: Difficult but doable.  Doable especially if the movements freight more financial, commercial, and diplomatic than military assets, albeit with the latter credibly present.

POTUS Trump: That is already happening.  Mnuchin, Ross, Lighthizer, and Pompeo are doing a great job.  Mattis knows the score.  China knows we mean what we say and can enforce it.  Any one of my predecessors over the past 80 years could have done this, but none did it.  A lot of people got rich fleecing Americans and selling their sovereign independence.  I think POTUS Kennedy saw something was wrong and wanted to fix it and was searching for the what and the how.  His other interests came between his desire and his delivery on the matter of national sovereignty.

GA MacArthur: Amen!  He was on his way to finding the actual problem and actually solving it.  With distractions, as you say.  His assassination broke my heart.  He consulted with me here at the White House shortly before he was killed.  So far, Americans have not been told what happened to POTUS Kennedy on 22 November 1963 in Dallas, TX.

POTUS Lincoln: Rest In Peace.

POTUS Washington: Restoration of American prestige is underway.  POTUS Trump is making friend, foe, and vacillator respect us.

POTUS Roosevelt: The foe portion of that observation distills to China.

POTUS Lincoln: I like this POTUS.  He fights.

[Approving cheerfulness.]

GA MacArthur: The general concept of an Indo-Pacific region of untrammeled American communications is accurate.  We are a westward-facing and westward-moving nation.  Our principal communications are in that direction.  Asia to us is West, not East.  Historically, Russia as Russia — not as The Soviet — is an ally.  Today she sees herself and us in that light and has been signaling us to that effect.  Even Kissinger has noticed.  We have not discussed that general phenomenon but I want to mention it nonetheless.

POTUS Washington: Agreed, that is the situation today between us and Russia.

GA MacArthur: A large nation state, China, enslaved by a Christian heresy which builds on theft, is putting toll gates on global trade routes.  And she not only borders on but has pushed salients into the Indo-Pacific region supporting USA and other sovereign nations’ communications.  As she engorges herself in this way she makes herself an enemy of peaceful global communications and especially of three nations with resources to back her down from her hegemonic appetites: India, USA, and Russia.

POTUS Lincoln: Aligned, those three states are a force China cannot endure.

POTUS Roosevelt: Correlatively, Mr. President, if China cannot endure that three-state alliance — India, USA, Russia — neither can the American and International Left which so treacherously act to murder their mother countries.

GA MacArthur: And that, Mr. President is something to consider.

SecDHS Nielsen: Yes it is.

CoS Kelly: Indeed it is.

POTUS Trump: Thank you all for being here and God Bless You!  . . . .  Tibet?

[Approving cheerfulness.]

Βασιλεία του Θεού
Kingdom of God

Update 1: A coincidence: Michael Walsh picks up the same four presidents.

Update 2: Clarice Feldman:  Exposed: the Deep State’s Authorship and Publication of the Dossier

Update 3: Kurt Schlichter: They Are Not Never Trump – They Are Never You

Update 4: Thomas H. Lipscomb: Fake News And News Fraud

Update 5: Julie KellyThe Weekly Standard’s Ties to Fusion GPS

Update 6: Therese Shaheen: The Belt and Road Illusion

Update 7: Sundance: Co-Conspiring “Media Coalition” Sue For Names, Addresses of Manafort Trial Jurors – Judge Ellis Refuses, No Verdict Reached

Update 8: Sundance: IMPORTANT – Michael Pillsbury: China Has “New Respect” For U.S. Trade Strategy

Update 9: Contemplating Positions On Chinese Flanks

AUM NAMAH SHIVAYA

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One thought on “Four Presidents And A General Discuss Affairs Of State

  1. POTUS Washington mentions that he and his colleagues found “our most consequential strength — or as you would say today, our best asset — was our moral courage and after that the general uprightness of our fellow citizens.”

    Interestingly, the conversation does not follow up on these points, especially as to whether USA leaders today can count on “the general uprightness of our fellow citizens.”

    Socialists masquerading as Americans have labored for decades, through churches and schools, to fundamentally transform “the general uprightness of our fellow citizens” into raving confusion. No little success has attended their efforts.

    That motivated my efforts decades ago to reacquire a rational academic curriculum, an integration of inquiry: http://www.adwaitha-hermitage.net/rishikul/phenom.html

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